Tuesday, October 2, 2012

4☆ Guardians – Glaverow Volcanic Zone [Part 2]


Suzaku

 
HP
MP
ATK
DEF
AGI
WIS
Lvl 1 Cool
794
898
830
866
912
892
Lvl Max Cool
1988
2245
2075
2165
2280
2230
Lvl Max Ace
2187
2469
2282
2381
2508
2453
 
Skill 1
Burning Strike (Fire+2)
Skill 2
Heavy Blow (Strong Physical+2)
Skill 3
Double Impact (Strong Physical+3)
Skill 4
Explosion (Fire+3)
Skill 5
Greater Might (ATK+20%)

Recommended Skills: Skill 3, Skill 4, Skill 5

Suzaku naturally has higher WIS, but because he has both physical and elemental +3 skills and his skill 5 ATK buff, he can be used as either physical or elemental damage dealer. Also, Int type can choose to replace skill 5 with another elemental+3 skill.

Type Recommendation:

Type
Comments
Chaotic
Tanking physical damage build
Sexy
Does not yield enough MP to cast +3 skill one more time
Powerful
Strong physical damage build
Brave
Tanking build, still have enough MP to cast +3 skill 3 times
Fast
Fast physical/elemental damage build
Intelligent
Elemental damage build

 

Genbu

 
HP
MP
ATK
DEF
AGI
WIS
Lvl 1 Cool
868
902
810
940
830
880
Lvl Max Cool
2170
2255
2025
2350
2075
2200
Lvl Max Ace
2387
2480
2227
2585
2282
2420
 
Skill 1
Heavy Blow (Strong Physical+2)
Skill 2
Greater Protect (DEF+20%)
Skill 3
Greater Cunning (WIS+20%)
Skill 4
Double Impact (Strong Physical+3)
Skill 5
Greater Might (ATK+20%)

Recommended Skills: Skill 2, Skill 4, Skill 5

Genbu is interesting that his base WIS is higher than base ATK, but only he has physical attacks. Therefore, for types other than Int, I’d suggest building him as physical damage dealer, with skills 2, 4, 5. For Int type, I’d suggest replacing skill 5 with skill 3, and replace skill 4 with an elemental +3 attack using magic stone.

Type Recommendation:

Type
Comments
Chaotic
Tanking physical damage build
Sexy
Does not yield enough MP to cast +3 skill one more time
Powerful
Strong physical damage build
Brave
Tanking build, but can only cast +3 skill twice
Fast
Fast physical damage build, but sacrifices his strongest attribute
Intelligent
Elemental damage build

 

Seiryu

 
HP
MP
ATK
DEF
AGI
WIS
Lvl 1 Cool
868
794
889
900
903
862
Lvl Max Cool
2170
1985
2223
2250
2257
2155
Lvl Max Ace
2387
2183
2445
2475
2483
2370
 
Skill 1
Heavy Blow (Strong Physical+2)
Skill 2
Greater Protect (DEF+20%)
Skill 3
Thunder Strike (Lightning+2)
Skill 4
Greater Heal (Major HP Recovery)
Skill 5
Double Impact (Strong Physical+3)

Recommended Skills: Skill 2, Skill 3, Skill 5

Seiryu is a defensive Guardian. His ATK is higher than WIS, so best used as physical damage dealer. For Ace and Int types, there is an option to replace Skill 3 with Skill 4 because of higher WIS. Seiryu is probably the best Guardian to use G Heal on (although G Heal is not recommended in general), because his defense is high enough so that he can often heal more than damage taken against weaker opponents.

Type Recommendation:

Type
Comments
Chaotic
Tanking physical damage build
Sexy
Does not yield enough MP to cast +3 skill one more time
Powerful
Strong physical damage build
Brave
Tanking build, but can only cast +3 skill twice
Fast
Fast physical damage build, but sacrifices his strongest attribute
Intelligent
Not optimal, since he doesn’t have high WIS and high level elemental skill

 

Byakko

 
HP
MP
ATK
DEF
AGI
WIS
Lvl 1 Cool
869
822
895
902
840
893
Lvl Max Cool
?
?
?
?
?
?
Lvl Max Ace
?
?
?
?
?
?
 
Skill 1
Greater Protect (DEF+20%)
Skill 2
Heavy Blow (Strong Physical+2)
Skill 3
Double Impact (Strong Physical+3)
Skill 4
Greater Might (ATK+20%)
Skill 5
Greater Haste (AGI+20%)

Recommended Skills: Skill 3, Skill 4, Skill 5

Similar to Seiryu and Genbu, Byakko is also a defensive Guardian. Although his base ATK and WIS are about the same, he is a physical damage dealer because of his skills. For offensive builds (powerful, fast, sexy), I’d strongly suggest keeping ATK and AGI buffs instead of DEF for more damage and more chance of attacking first. For defensive builds (chaotic, brave), AGI buff may be replaced with DEF buff. In general, AGI buff is preferred over DEF buff, especially when against strong opponents such as 5 Guardians.

Type Recommendation:

Type
Comments
Chaotic
Tanking physical damage build
Sexy
(Not sure because no available max MP stats)
Powerful
Strong physical damage build
Brave
(Not sure because no available max MP stats)
Fast
Fast physical damage build, but sacrifices his strongest attribute
Intelligent
Not optimal, since he doesn’t have elemental skill



Bahamut

Please refer to "Bahamut's Descents Event" Article for details.
 

45 comments:

  1. Windy, just wanted to say a great thanks on the guide for part 2. Been waiting for it!

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  2. Big thanks for all this guide. It's very usefull for the beginners.
    Soo, could you say, which 4* guardians are "must have" in your opinion (2-3guardians), and tell me please, does it really make sense too pay a much more silver slimes for an ACE cards trading (for example Fast or Powerful vamp costs 2-3ss, and Ace vamp is much more).
    Thanks in advance.

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    1. The overall strongest 4*s are arguably Vampire, Golem, and Hecatoncheir, so aim for those. Ace is a lot more superior than other types, since it boosts all stats by 10%. Ace Vamp, Golem, and Hecaton are probably the best choices after 5*s.

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  3. hi windy/dk thanks for the post, however

    do you guys still see big shaped siluet on glaverow? because these 2 days i used 20++ tickets and couldn't find my big shaped monster there O_0?

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    1. Don't give up your hope! Experience have told me that the harder u repawn ur giant birdie, the more chance it's a Bahamut ^_^

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    2. hooray....!! i got it today and it's a fast bahamut ^_^

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  4. This would not necessarily be the case for you, but to give you an idea. Took me around 100 tickets to get 6 Suzaku. It took me almost 100 tickets alone to get my bahamut

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    1. wogh i'm feeling luckier now to end up using less than 100 tickets i think to get my bahamut..

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  5. It would help to add element and form when you try to capture.
    And a list of all of them... Would be great too!!!!

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    1. that would be...... a catalog list, which is on its way to be published soon (within a week i think, cuz I'm kinda busy now) lol

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  6. Thanks for your help!!!!!
    BTW, is there any place to change cards or to get friends for sending each other 3*slimes??
    I'm allways getting same type rares... Need to change a medusa for another nice 4* guardian, preferably earth, darkness, light or wind... Any suggestion for asking? My other best guardians are leviathan, kraken, vampire and the big fire bird from volcanic!

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    1. I also have hecatoncheir... :)

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    2. Try to go to Trading areas on major GC forums, such as Gamefaqs, neoseeker, Guardian Cross Forum.

      Btw, we're most active on Guardian Cross Forum.

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  7. i have an Ace Seriyu. so do you think i should replace skill 3 with skill 4(G heal)? but i dont like the way that it keep healing and healing without doing any Damage. please advise.

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    1. If u were asking for my personal opinion, I'd say don't learn G Heal, because I really don't like Healing skills, and it sometimes gets annoying when u can kill ur opponent with one more hit but instead uses heals.

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    2. totally agree.. thanks alot..

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  8. so windy i got a brave genbu is that a good def card? to put in the front

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    1. It's one of the better defensive cards for 4*.

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  9. dkreangdoon or windy i got a trade request from a friend.. he offerd me lvl 60 lord of the inferno and 4x sliver slims for my lvl 45 brave phoniex good deal ?

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  10. Hi Windy, I just got to know that the game can be hack by iPhone jailbreak. Is this reason why I can see player with deck full of 5* cards max level in Coliseum?

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    1. So far SE has been fairly swift about banning anyone that hacks the game. Granted they probably can't catch them all.
      There are many ways to get 5* through trade (usually requiring other 5*). I am not entirely sure on how the hacking works, but you cant rule out the fact that many of the people with deck full of max 5*s may have spent a good amount of real money either buying special tickets, or buying cards through PayPal.

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    2. Ic thanks for your reply. I guess I just dont have luck on spending my real money to buy special hunting ticket cause all I get was 3*. Like seriously... all of them 3* LOL

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  11. Hi, I found a Brave Seiryu and I was wondering if it is worth leveling up or I should keep my ss until I get a 5*?

    Cheers

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  12. I have an Ace Byakko but it's stll level 40. I update u once I maximize it level 55 :)

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  13. Hello Windy, Thanks for everything you've done. I want to make a GHeal Seiryu Wall, which skill should I forget?

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    1. States up there. Replace Skill 2 which is the lightning one

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    2. Thanks a lot!! I was slightly confused ;)

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  14. Windy, I have an Ace Seiryu. Is ur personal opinion to not keep G Heal? I'm kind of torn between the two and not sure which way to go.

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    1. Personally I'd drop G Heal, especially in high ranking Coli battles.

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  15. if you need an information according max aced byakko
    hp 2390
    attack 2461
    agi 2310
    mp 2260
    def 2480
    wis 2456

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  16. Hi , I need your suggestion
    which one is better , ace heca or genbu?

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    1. in case I have lightning+3 stone for genbu

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    2. both are really good. It really depend on whether you want a physical or elemental.

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  17. Hey Windy, I've got an Ace Genbu. Your tips above for Genbu apply to non-Ace, and Int Genbu. But like you've mentioned, the WIS stat is highest stat. So I have two questions. First, based on the stats, would it be better to make an Ace Genbu elemental? Since I'm not sure about the answer to the first question I've been holding off at level 49. The skill set at this point is mainly physical so I've been boosting ATK, DEF, and HP with stones. This leads to the second question. From The Guardian Stats Growth Pattern guide I'm aware that guardian stats have caps. It isn't mentioned so I'm guessing the answer is no, but is there a maximum total allowed boosted stat points, or are all stat caps able to be reached for a single guardian as long as you have enough Magic Stones?

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    1. The stats cap for magic stone boosting is calculated individually for each stat, so any Guardian is capable of being maxed in all stats as long as you have the stones needed.

      My above tips about Genbu actually applies to Ace as well, since Ace is just an overral boost to Cool type XD. I guess for Genbu, you can build it either Physical or Elemental, depending on your deck line-up. Ace Genbu is generally stronger as elemental (if you replace with elemental +3/+4 stone), but elemental attackers bare the risk of damage critical/block situation, while physical attackers don't. So there're always trade-offs that you need to make.

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  18. Good point. Since it's my only Ace 4 star (which makes it my best since I don't have anything above 4 stars...) I guess I'll leave him at 49 undecided and keep boosting with physical stones. If I ever get a 4 or 5 star that I'm definitely making physical tanker, then maybe I'll go ahead and make it elemental. Thanks for the tip!

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  19. Hey Windy, two more questions. I'm going to get myself a +3 or +4 water stone for my Ace Genbu. Above you mentioned giving Genbu +3. There a reason for this and not +4? Also, how much mp do +3 and +4 skills use?

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    1. And I guess on top of that, how much mp does G Prot and G Cun use?

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    2. My suggestion for getting +3 is kinda because of MP usage concern too, but I haven't calculated the exact MP max limit for Genbu yet. The MP usage table for all skills can be found in my article "Guardian Skills -- General"

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  20. I see. After looking at that thread and the stats multipliers, looks like it is possible but is going to take quite a bit of MP stones. Guess my Ace Genbu is far from being the best it can be. Thanks again!

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  21. Had an Ace Byakko, stats as below

    Hp 2390
    Mp 2260
    Att 2461
    Def 2480
    Agi 2310
    Wis 2456

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